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Comment here about articles submitted to Amateur Astronomer [1]

Also, please share any ideas about promoting this Wiki project, which is meant to give people with original ideas a means of obtaining peer review and constructive criticism.

Promoting Academic Publishing Wiki Edit

One option is to participate at Wikiversity where we are trying to establish a Wikimedia Foundation project with an active research community. --JWSchmidt 18:08, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


Thank you, JWSchmidt, for making me feel welcome. As you suggested, I have joined the Wikiversity community. WVogelerWvogeler 06:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

your question Edit

Sorry about the delay in responding to your question. I suggest that the thing to do is pick a general-interest topic and start a "wiki-journal" for it at Wikiversity. --JWSchmidt 04:44, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Problem with article saved as global Academia template Edit

There seems to be a problem with your article now appearing on every page throughout the Academia Wikia that uses the preliminary draft template. For example, see page http://academia.wikia.com/wiki/Initial_draft. The initial draft page displays your article, but on editing the page, you will notice that your article is nowhere to be found on that page, as your article has been saved over the original preliminary draft template and is imported to pages by their usage of the preliminary draft template.

You may wish to save your article on its own separate page, where that page name matches the title of your article (see page content guidelines in most Academia journals). When the original preliminary draft template has been reverted, you may include the line {{Preliminary draft|Wvogeler}} at the head of your article text, and the colored preliminary draft box should then appear, displayed at the top of your newly-saved article page. Until the original preliminary draft template has been reverted, you may see two copies of your article on the article page, the one you saved on the article page and the second imported from the still-corrupted template. Right now, every preliminary draft and help page using the template in Academia Wikia carries a copy of your article with it, so your article is getting plenty of exposure! JCGonzales 23:50, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what I didEdit

Thank you for telling me what happened with my article, even though I don't understand how it happened. I'm sorry if I caused a problem. I'm still learning how to post articles.

user: wvogeler

Not a really big problem, but it does show up in a lot of places! I will try to restore the original template and create the page pointed to by your [[The Core of the Apple]] link. Notice that the link is currently red (in most browsers), showing that the page does not yet exist. I guess the appropriate thing after that is to move the page to the new page "The Core of the Apple", because if we just copy and paste the text to the new page, the edit history will be lost. That's no big deal either, since you are probably the only person who's been editing it. In the new article page, we'll add the {{Preliminary draft|Wvogeler}} line at the top, so the preliminary draft box shows up. It's late here, so I'll have this done for you tomorrow!
Of course, feel free to try this yourself if you like. To create a convenient page from a red link, right-click on the link to open the drop-down menu and select "open in new tab/window", then you can select and cut your article from the template page and paste it into the new page edit box before saving. JCGonzales 07:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Good. The one copy of your article currently visible on your new page is coming from the template before fixing. I'll swap it out of the template and into the actual text of your article page, then I'll reset the template to the most recent 2005 version (archived and available through the template history page.) For a moment, there will be two copies of your article visible on your article page, but that'll last only a minute or so and is necessary so I don't lose your article in transit. As I said, it was not a BIG problem, just a massively pervasive one. In a few minutes, you should be able to see the results. If you are interested in the geek stuff behind templates, there are articles on template programming which I found just recently. To be honest, a year ago I didn't know anything about wikii at all. JCGonzales 17:02, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
All done. You're free to edit your article on your new article page, and the preliminary draft box also appears with the automatic insertion of categories at the bottom of the page. Also, the old versions of your article are recoverable on the template history page if you're interested in them. JCGonzales 17:16, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

The Core of the Apple Edit

I left a suggestion on the discussion page for "The Core of the Apple". I also wanted you to know that if you save that article page with a new title, then you have a new article with the new title name in addition to the article "The Core of the Apple". It will be difficult to determine which article is the current version and which is not because of the two separate copies stored under each name. Once you decide which one you want to be your preliminary draft, you may want to talk to one of the system operators (sysops) about deleting the other page; ordinary contributors such as us can blank out a page by removing the text until no words are left, but the empty page will still be there with no article, causing confusion to new visitors who are expecting to see an article there. We cannot actually delete a previously-stored page (or at least that is my perception of things around here after editing at Wikipedia) but I assure you that we can mangle them, as I once did to the US Attorney article at Wikipedia!

I hope my suggestion for "The Core of the Apple" is useful, no matter which version you choose to keep. JCGonzales 23:14, 28 May 2007 (UTC) (By the way, you can determine how many copies have been made by going through the pages listed in the Category Amateur Astronomy. Note that the Category Amateur Astonomy is not the article Amateur Astronomy, but the category does contain the article Amateur Astronomy as the journal's main page. In the Category Amateur Astronomy, you will see the article page "The Core of the Apple", and once you click that link, you may find the comments I left on its discussion page. As a nice trick, you can put [[Category:Amateur Astronomy]] on the bottom of your own user page, and then your user page will also be listed in the Category Amateur Astronomy, a fitting tribute to its founder and first author.)

Thanks for all your help. You have been most courteous, too. I'll try to follow your instructions, but it may take me a while because I'm still learning my way around the Wiki world. wvogeler

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